[enter-talk] It’s hilarious that Suga fans think BTS can’t make good songs without himㅋㅋㅋ

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I saw some fans saying that Suga is BTS’ main producer and that BTS can’t release songs without him because he produces BTS’ songs. I’m really sorry but I have to bring up RM in some parts. If we’re going to talk about Suga in terms of producing, we have to talk about RM as well.

Firstly, look at this picture. There’s no detailed information about album composers on Namuwiki and the Korean Wikipedia, so I have to upload it in English. 

Song credits increase based on contribution. The main producer or main composer/lyricist’s name always comes first. The other contributors? We have no way of knowing how much they actually participate. We can only guess.

Below are BTS’ song composers and producers. I didn’t add Japanese albums, but Japanese credits aren’t different from Korean album credits. The main producer is always Pdogg.

Pdogg’s name = yellow, Suga’s name = purple

– Out of all of BTS’ songs, Suga is the main producer for only 4 songs: “Let Me Know” “Interlude: Shadow” “Tomorrow “Jump”
– Out of all BTS’ songs, Suga only participated in producing 3 songs: “First Love” “Respect” “Skit”
– Suga is the main lyricist for only 3 songs: I”nterlude: Shadow” “Tomorrow” “Jump”
– Pdogg alone is only producer for all of BTS’s main successful songs
– All of BTS’s successful songs were also made by Pdogg alone

KOMCA announces the top 10 earners in royalties every year. Pdogg and Bang Si Hyuk took 1st place in 2019, 2020, 2021, and 2022.
This is the list of 2022 

So now let’s check this,


-Idols with the most copyrights in 2022:
#2 BTS RM (187 songs)
#4 GD (174 songs)
#9 Suga (134 songs)
#37 IU (72 songs)

-Melon Streams in 2022:
#1 BTS — 12,417,055,600 streams (267 songs)
#3 IU — 7,716,769,400 streams (122 songs)
#5 BIGBANG — 3,159,735,800 streams (68 songs)
(GD was not in the top 100)

But?????
-People with the most copyright income in 2022:
#6 GD
#8 IU


Then why are RM and Suga not on this list??
Have you ever thought about why RM has more copyrights than IU and GD, and those copyrighted songs were streamed 3-4 times more than IU and GD’s, and sold 6 million times more albums in 2022, but they are not in the top 10 in copyright income? Isn’t that weird?

Post interaction: +824, -92

1. [+467, -10] I really don’t understand why Suga himself and Armys think that he writes genius lyrics, honestly his lyrics suck… How many times are they going to call him genius? Even Mozart himself never pulled this type of bulls**t ㅋㅋㅋㅋ 

“I’m so thankful, I’m a genius, That’s your reason for using drugs, cry me a river, you just got no skills”

 

2. [+223, -8] Suga isn’t good at composing or producing. Do you remember Suga’s song ‘What Do You Think’? That song was claimed to be a self-produced solng, but when the Jim Jones controversy arose, HYBE quickly added another producer and songwriter to the credits, and they clarified that the controversial parts were made by the other producer, not Suga.

 

3.[+156, -17] It’s because he rarely plays a role in singing. He’s not in a position to be called as BTS’ producer as well. BTS wouldn’t lose their color without him

 

4. [+124, -11] Honestly, nothing would change if unless Pdogg leaves the company. They also got songs from a lot of outside producers, and just like the post says, I also don’t think he’s that great of a producer himself ㅋㅋㅋ…

 

5. [+114, -5] Credits for a song increase based on contribution, so if you’re not the main, your contribution might be less than 1%. It might be almost nothing. It’s not surprising that these days idols have 10 or so main composers and only list their names in credits, right? You can get credit just by coming up with an idea or changing a word. If Suga doesn’t make money from song royalties, it means there a problem with contribution. But I agree with what you said about marketing strategy. I know he has many of self-composed songs, but I don’t know if he properly wrote a few lines of lyrics for songs that were popular ㅋㅋㅋ

 

6.[+85 -40] The group is popular, so they had to put him in composer line-up so that he wouldn’t seem to have no role in group

“Lets use the famous strategy”

 

“Someone said it’s famous. I don’t know why it’s famous but it’s just famous!”

 

 

7.[+75, -4] A genius kickboard appeal

 

8.[+70, -7] Putting aside the fact that he’s bad at producing or writing lyrics, whenever I see him now, all I can think of is this and that shit and it’s so funnyㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ

 

9.[+69, -32] He’s not even Jungkook, and he said he’s worldwide so I was like, “Huh??” He doesn’t sing or rap that well

 

10.[+54, -3] It’s always funny to see HYBE put “(Produced by BTS Suga)” in every song of singers he produced or participated in the production at least a little bit ㅋㅋ There are so many singers who make songs for other people, but this is the first time I’ve seen someone who’s so desperate to show off like them..The only one who wrote “Produced by so-and-so” next to a song was Mnet’s who wrote Zico’s name but he has a lot of hit songs and Mnet wanted to brag that the “Produce 101” group’s song was produced by Zico.. Conclusion:  Suga can produce, yes, but his share within BTS is absolutely not as HYBE promotes him, and is in fact minimal.